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<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html">2020-09-23 meeting</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211006399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211006399">(Sep 23 2020 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>​</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211006854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211006854">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211006946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211006946">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2943">@T-infra</span> meeting time!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211006963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211006963">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007336">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's wait a couple of minutes before starting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007718">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's start!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007798" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007798">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have one nominated issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007801">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/77016">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/77016</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007807" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007807">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007824">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Test clippy on PR builder</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007912">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>30 seconds? D E N I E D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007929">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>/s</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007991">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>this makes the PR builder slower by 2.5/5 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211007992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211007992">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe 2-5 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008075" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008075">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>namely from 35 to around 40 minutes for a build</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008126">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>without knowing our capacity, it's hard to say anything here imo</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008165">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't worry about capacity</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008182">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>but about the UX for contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008277">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, I'd love for that builder to return as much useful information as possible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008302">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>in the shortest amount of time</p>



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<p>yeah so this is clearly nice to have, and it's rare that you'd run these locally by accident</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008375">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me is not sure how to run clippy tests locally</p>



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<p>x.py test --stage 1 src/tools/clippy should just work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008439">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>what does usually break those tests? changing clippy? changing the rest of the codebase?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008507">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>changing compiler, for the most part, I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008517">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008544" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008544">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've not done a lot of compiler dev recently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008615">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd ask for clarification on what prompted the changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008651">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's links to it I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008654">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ralf said that they break clippy often</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008700" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008700">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>because if that only happens when changing a part of the codebase or clippy itself, we could only run those tests if those files were changed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008731">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Clippy.20tests.20and.20PR.20CI">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/Clippy.20tests.20and.20PR.20CI</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008788" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008788">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is a library change</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211008976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211008976">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>thinks</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009115">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure we should make that call ourselves</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009135">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, my worry is not with capacity, we surely have that for 5 extra minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009242">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe let's bring it up to the compiler team?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009259">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>and compiler-contributors?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009275">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>with what they'd prefer to have there?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009277">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know that ... they would be able to give a better answer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009287">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, obviously the ideal is getting all tests in PR CI</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009315">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we want it fast and capacity low</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009351">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>my ideal is that the chances of a PR bouncing in bors is ~0 if it passed PR CI, or as close as we can get</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009405">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd ask "is it worth running those extra tests on the PR CI if all the PR builds will take 15% more time"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009470" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009470">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think if we were to ask that we would need statistics like "% failure rate of PRs after merging due to these tests"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009554">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, 15% is not nothing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009600">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah you're not wrong, though it's also worth noting that 35 minutes is also way beyond "context switch" time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009626">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, if this was 5 -&gt; 10 minutes, I think I would care a lot more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009645">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>because waiting for 5 minutes is not unreasonable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009695">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in any case, I'm not personally prepared to push either way on this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009723">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's also true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009728">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>gah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009737">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>does anyone have a dice?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009738">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>as someone who cares very deeply about compile times, I also think 35 -&gt; 40 minutes is not  a big deal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009799">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>since the things most likely to fail (<code>tidy</code>) come at the beginning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009851">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me mumbles that tidy is last I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009875">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh that should probably be changed then so contributors can get feedback faster :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009880">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe not last last</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009887">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009889">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>separate discussion though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009913" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009913">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>my random number generator says 4, as always</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009940">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's just punt on this and I can ping Ralf asking if this is common</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211009964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211009964">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good! want to leave a comment?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010135">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah doing so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010145">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010156">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>moving on, no other issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010200" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010200">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>onto the agenda, we have</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Move things off of highfive tokens, rust-highfive is hitting rate limits</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010227" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010227">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, we already moved docsrs to its own bot account</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010282">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>how do we want to proceed?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010339" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010339">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>"already" == since we last hit rate limits?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010365">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I added to our GH agenda to see if they can tell us the IPs at least that are using the token</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010390">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe per-token rate limit insights</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010408">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116155">Jake Goulding</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202020-09-23/near/211010339">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>"already" == since we last hit rate limits?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010413">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>monitorbot is supposed to monitor this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010440">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm personally tempted to say docsrs is maybe the cause and we can just wait and see if it happens again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010469">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>Since we haven't hit limits since, perhaps it's fixed?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010482" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010482">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>What <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> said.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010497">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>we've hit them... twice I think over the last month?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010511" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010511">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>the first time we did nothing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010522">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe last 2 months, not sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010570">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>2 months probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010614" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010614">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Make <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="232545">@Joshua Nelson</span> have docsrs do whatever it did the last time to try? :-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010668">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010683">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd say we should just wait to see if it happens again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010751" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010751">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> await</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010752">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010909">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010911">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>did emojis break again :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010915">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>nope</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010932">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010939">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't see the <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010940">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>gah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010952" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010952">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>the last item is private</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010964">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah zulip does that weird</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010970">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010971">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to bring up?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if you're ready to end the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010979">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>(this is for the public part of the meeting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211010997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211010997">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Status update: aarch64-apple-darwin in CI has had a few successful <code>try</code> builds and is awaiting final review.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211011027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211011027">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span> <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span> <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211011029" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211011029">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks jake!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211011166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211011166">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, thanks everyone for attending the public part!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211011168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211011168">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23%20meeting/near/211011300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/2020-09-23.20meeting.html#211011300">(Sep 23 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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